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AoB vote

I changed up the mainbar a bunch and made it slightly less suck. Now it's pewpew Reap Impurities fuel. Might want to look at it again. --Jai. - 02:50, November 17 2011 (UTC)

If I want pewpew Reap Impurities, I'd use Grenth's Grasp or the gimmicky shit with Withering Aura. I find no point in using AoB in PvE.--Relyk 23:12, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Except GG and Withering Aura don't add anything either. :/ And again, I'm not saying it's top-quality (though its AoE damage is fairly comparable to PR, actually), but I still feel that we need to vett an AoB bar because PvX stores meta builds, and AoB is part of the meta, just like DSM and other crap like it. --Jai. - 02:33, November 18 2011 (UTC)

Fuck vetting then just throw a meta tag on it like they do with any other meta build Smity Smitington 17:03, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Can't for PvE builds. Only GvG and HA builds can skip to meta, and AoB honestly is not good enough to ignore policy and skip voting. -- Toraen talk 17:05, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Ahhh Smity Smitington 18:55, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Using the meta tag in PvE is trivial since we don't have a policy for it. PvX stores the best builds, not necessarily popular builds. It's just that the popular builds are usually the best. In this case, my opinion falls under the "don't run this shit". I'll still respect consensus if people find it viable; add the meta tag after it's vetted.--Relyk 19:06, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

I think Jai kind of has a point.  The fact that it is so popular means that people might come to pvx for the best AoB bar, although I also agree that we should push people away from using it as it is inferior to other options.  At least we can help people not be uber terrible with AoB, and rate it good, showing that it is not as good as builds in the excellent category.  Then again, I guess pvx isn't about catering to that kind of thing anyways. Smity Smitington 19:23, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

PvX will never be the place GW users come to find PUG builds. e.g. Defy Pain War and Searing Flames Ele will never be found in our meta pve section despite their prevalence. -- Chieftain Alex 19:29, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

SF Ele is strong--Relyk 23:20, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

PUG builds are poor because the people building them suck and obviously don't have enough choice on PvX (majority come here looking for a cool standalone bar for their profession in a PUG mission) so give them choice for PUG situations. For example, you won't run ER prot outside of a PUG or player group, would you? Nor would you run a resto rit in 7H (coincidentally rt lord resto is pro for pugs :p )~Ӎiñon 23:27, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

But then I don't get why we still have 7H Discord on here, as it's notably inferior to 7HPS (which is actually inferior to RoJway). --Jai. - 01:38, November 19 2011 (UTC)

Cleanup

Scroll scroll, scroll your mouse, up and down the screen. If you find your topic now, well, be glad, I'm not going to rhyme this shit. I archived coz it was like 70k... Shadow 19:21, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Try scrolling on a phone, it's even worse. I was going to archive when I got home.--Relyk 22:51, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

That's hell :O Shadow 22:52, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Also note that my previous archive was an entire year while this archive still had a month to go.--Relyk 23:15, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Hehehe, well, okay. Now it's pretty clean =) Shadow 23:17, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

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Play gw --Jai. - 17:48, November 20 2011 (UTC)

Pick some colours?

See Template talk:Meta-Build + think of some colours you feel meta-good build should be represented by. Chieftain Alex 00:29, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Or leave it the way it is. Vincent Evan [Air Henchman] 00:38, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

The good color kinda sucks right now. I tried to make it like the difference between the green on Good and Great, but apparently it's too close to pink for everyone? -- Toraen talk 00:45, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Why do we need a different color for good and great anyways Toraen D:--Relyk 04:21, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

It bothered me that Good and Great Meta looked the same with the only mention of the rating being in the paragraph that no one reads. -- Toraen talk 04:53, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

http://www.gwpvx.com/index.php?title=User:Relyk&diff=prev&oldid=1170783

pretty good — Skakid Rally- kupo! 05:35, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Less epic quote.

^ bump. + reference Chieftain Alex 20:39, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

I saw it, I didn't find it that epic since danny always runs around with a jingle bear. You can add it yourself, I don't mind.--Relyk 22:41, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

(Heh its your page, entirely your choice what to add) I added some equip to the SFway build. Chieftain Alex 23:41, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

really?

are you really that butthurt about being wrong? thanks for blowing things out of proportion every time you find something you disagree with. — Skakid Rally- kupo! 20:13, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Coming onto his page to flame/troll him is blowing things out of proportion more than what he did. Hell, he made like 3 edits, none of which were hostile in any manner. How is that being butthurt? --Jai. - 20:39, December 4 2011 (UTC)

Ugly image macro removed — Skakid Rally- kupo! 21:22, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm trolling you! Vincent Evan [Air Henchman] 21:30, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Your trolls recently have rather sucked. The whole point of trolling is to stir up drama, which you haven't done since you've become active again. --Jai. - 22:31, December 4 2011 (UTC)

If that's your definition then->pro at it ~Ӎiñon 22:48, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

I didn't say I was trolling. I'm being trolled — Skakid Rally- kupo! 23:13, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

You don't intentionally troll, though. There are several people, including myself, that tend to start shitstorms not for the sake of shitstorms but for arguing something that we think that we should. That's not really trolling... --Jai. - 23:37, December 4 2011 (UTC)

I hate to be the one to tell you Jai, but excluded is only here to create trolling marathons. He disguises it by being "intentionally good". Chieftain Alex 23:53, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Shitty disguise then. :p Vincent Evan [Air Henchman] 00:04, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Maybe I'm naive to think that there are actually retards in the world and not all of the terrible people are intentionally creating logical fallacies. But I still think the Excluded has no idea how bad his builds are. Also, you support him on most of his builds, so are you saying that you're trolling as well? --Jai. - 00:59, December 5 2011 (UTC)

You should seriously get around to berating my latest claims to why pvx should keep rt lord resto guy. i have numbers and you must read them. On Topic, I guess since this is Relyk's talk page... hi. ~Ӎiñon 00:38, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I've read them, and I have plenty to say about them, but it's simply not worth it. Arguing with you is just a waste of time. --Jai. - 00:59, December 5 2011 (UTC)

How can you not agree with me when I have firm evidence? Do you also question gravity? ~Ӎiñon 02:10, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

The issue people have with the build hasn't been party healing of rit vs. party healing of monk (which is all Chthon addresses), since you apparently haven't noticed that at all. It's about how Passive Spirits takes up unnecessary space on a team. For example: Roland said you're basically forcing 3 defensive characters with this build in a PuG. I do not know who is absolutely right since I stayed out of this for a while, but listen and respond to all the arguments provided against the build. Don't just focus on your one talking point. -- Toraen talk 02:50, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

I think he misunderstood, but I will make some points on the talk page instead of offtopicking Relyk's talk page. ~Ӎiñon 02:52, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

(EC)You've had "evidence" for all your shitty builds, but in the end that evidence means nothing because it's based on unrealistic situations and idealized circumstances. But fine, I'll bite, one more time. regen fucking sucks. The vast majority of threatening damage in PvE comes in big packets, and a party-wide Mending isn't going to shit in that case. This means you're essentially required to bring prot as well as another character that can actually provide non-shit single-target heals. That's going to mean 3 dedicated slots to defense because fuck if pugs will actually run hybrid roles. That alone makes the build inferior to monks. And get this straight: we do not need a Ritualist Resto build on PvX. If there's one that is superior to monks, that's a different story, but otherwise, there is no real reason to store one.

Oh, and if you really, really want to run resto, just fucking run an SoS with MBaS, SL, PwK, and/or Life. You'll end up doing far more for your party that way than some shitty full-resto rit any day of the week. --Jai. - 02:56, December 5 2011 (UTC)

Ok

PvX as a whole is pretty much completely fucked because our userbase is permanently small which means 1-2 people can trash a build and 3-4 people is a consensus. A single troll could theoretically put the wiki into an indefinite standstill. --Jai. - 06:58, December 6 2011 (UTC)

At least votes get discussed and debated constantly for more recent builds, people bandwagoned all the pve builds to great or trash back in the day--Relyk 07:08, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

They're only argued because we don't have anybody that can actually say whether something's shit or not. --Jai. - 07:11, December 6 2011 (UTC)

I can tell you that. ~Ӎiñon 07:17, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Somebody who has a clue about the game. That's definitely not you. --Jai. - 07:35, December 6 2011 (UTC)

I'd like to think I have gathered enough knowledge of the game and the mechanics to make a good judgement on builds. For example; did you know how similar gvg is to pve?! ~Ӎiñon 07:55, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

About as similar as unicorns are to rainbows: They're often associated, but they're totally fucking different. --Jai. - 08:15, December 6 2011 (UTC)

What the hell has been going on here in the past few months? Just seems like one shitstorm after another, but without the hilarity that used to accompany said shitstorms. Life Guardian 07:56, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

^ --Jai. - 08:15, December 6 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure, telling people to fuck off doesn't work anymore--Relyk 08:28, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

That same phrase has been thrown around since 2007. Business as usual here. — Skakid Rally- kupo!

"I just wanted to tell you that guru post is stupid and you're stupid for using it to justify your argument."

You are so close to not breaking policy there. Couldn't you have just dropped the second half of the sentence? In future insult the argument, not the person. A new misery 11:54, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm being 100% serious when I ask, when was the last time NPA was enforced? What Relyk said there isn't even that bad, I've seen far worse that hasn't been reprimanded in any way. If you're going to go after somebody, go after me or Danny (when he's around) or Silven or somebody else, because Relyk in general is far more civil than most of us. --Jai. - 12:03, December 9 2011 (UTC)

I think "you're stupid" is possibly the lowest level of aggression ever chased with NPA warning. Chieftain Alex 12:20, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Tbh, I use that phrase quite commonly, particularly in regards to Minion. --Jai. - 12:29, December 9 2011 (UTC)

Still, it's best to just not insult each other — Skakid Rally- kupo! 15:39, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

What the hell, you'd have to go out on a limb to interpret that as calling Excluded stupid misery :/ My bad if my sarcastic tone and link to a giant paragraph "insulting" his argument didn't imply otherwise.--Relyk 12:42, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

It was hardly a warning, I am just trying to encourage non-terrible debating. You guys are getting so close to being able to actually discuss things without just shouting and raging at each other. I'm trying to actually get us there. I also don't see how "you're stupid" needs to be stretched in order to be interpreted as calling him stupid. It's calling him stupid. If you wanted to toe the line you would use "and it is stupid to use that to justify your argument", even better would be "I just wanted to tell you that the guru post is incredibly flawed and it does a poor job of supporting your argument." Also in case everyone hasn't noticed I've been shortening the leash a bit. I don't really consider it appropriate any more for people to go around calling each other autistic niggers. A new misery 12:51, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

That's fine, I'll avoid using as coarse language. I'm out of patience with Excluded making excessive and unproductive comments that lead to discussions digressing into shitstorms, which has been the case for a few recent discussions. The previous section on the same page I linked also addresses arguments Excluded has presented. It feels like a wasted effort at this point to try and debate with him however.--Relyk 13:12, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

If it helps, I didn't take offence. Or does that not help? ~Ӎiñon 15:21, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

@Jai, last one banned for NPA was me Shadow _{Christmas Signature} 15:38, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Fairly sure i have been banned for npa about 5 times Rawr 15:47, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

But who took the latest ban, me ^^. Wow, not something to be proud of tbh Shadow _{Christmas Signature} 15:49, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

16:33, 8 May 2008 PVX-Frvwfr2 (Talk | contribs) blocked Skakid9090 (Talk | contribs) with an expiry time of infinite () — Skakid Rally- kupo! 17:07, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

I still can't believe people use the "but we haven't enforced that policy"-argument. --DANDY ^_^ -- 21:03, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

In this case, it's more like why are we trying to enforce it now. Vincent Evan [Air Henchman] 22:36, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Because pvx is growing at such an exponential rate we need to start controlling it before it gets out of control..rite? Roland 23:40, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

It is growing. There will be a surge of new excited pvers who want to share their exploitations with the new update and alot of people reading the talk pages of said builds. needs moar enforcement ye. 81.141.90.128 07:10, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

I was being sarcastic, there's only ~10 people who actually active on site with 10-20 people who sometimes drop by and contribute something. With update we might see more action for 1-3weeks, but people are not lining up to start contributing on pvx in 2012. Roland 18:36, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

lol thats an unhealthy graph. Chieftain Alex 19:22, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Depends on two things. 1: Minion, 2: Anet Shadow _{Christmas Signature} 19:23, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

The same graph goes for everything GW related: 'Guild Wars', 'Guild Wars builds', 'Guild Wars wiki', etc. _talk 19:27, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

apparently finland loves pvx? — Skakid Rally- kupo! 19:28, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Cept the graphs for "guild wars" are about 58x bigger. Chieftain Alex 19:35, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

At least PvX loves Finland :> --DANDY ^_^ -- 21:11, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

PvX loves Dandy--Relyk 00:27, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Build:Team - 7 Hero Urgoz

Is on 4 votes and you haven't voted :) Chieftain Alex 23:55, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

I avoid voting on my own builds--Relyk 00:55, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Gz vetted @ 4.8 Chieftain Alex 00:18, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

MSN

I kind of need it now, our entire discussion got shut down. ApplesaucePancakes 05:28, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Like I said, I don't know what my msn is (would be). Do you need my email used for logging into windows live or just the first/last name they require you to enter?--Relyk 05:32, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Your email. You should be getting a request in just a second too... --Jai. - 05:35, December 16 2011 (UTC)

zzz just realized I was using Xbox live account for logging instead of creating a hotmail. Go use lemalokai@hotmail.com for my MSN.--Relyk 05:49, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

sent you an invite. I'm at work but I can still talk off and on. ApplesaucePancakes 06:46, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

lol

today I finished running to droks on my derv, after going afk in Dreadnought's and finding myself with 60 DP when I got back. I did end up popping a candy apple in Snake Dance for the energy (because I had like 19), but otherwise I don't think I really needed it. When did running become so easy? --Jai's Crappy Christmas Sig... - 05:30, December 25 2011 (UTC)

I think it was NF or just-post EoTN time when I was ran by a level 6 warrior through to Droks... ~Ӎiñon 06:18, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Lvl 1 war can run droks no? Life Guardian 06:39, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Balanced Stance, red rock, cc and grail for attributes, and SoD/shadow form/dash; it would totally work.-- _talk 07:01, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

I remember being unable to run it on wammo early on. After you got access to iau and buh, things became sickeningly easy.-- _talk 07:05, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Global Agenda

Danny, Jai, and I massacred lowbie pvp for a few hours earlier. You should get it so we can AvA for holosuits >: rąʂKƴɖooƿɭɘş 11:29, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Will do--Relyk 02:29, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Relyk, add me: applepython. Vincent Evan [Air Henchman] 03:31, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

ele update

discuss if i should just continue with roj way. or w/e. you are my strategy machine. Akio_Katsuragi 05:08, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

I wrote an essay here. To summarize it, ignore the update unless you're an ele, invoke heroes don't work, and Build:E/any EA Fire Nuker on heroes for decent damage.--Relyk 05:14, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Searing Flames for shiz. You need 3+ (so best with an ele player as you said), but 100-150 nearby AoE damage every second (between the three ele's) is pretty hawt. Balling isn't even really needed, you just cspace and kill everything with the big-ass range of the AoE. --Jai's Computer - 06:08, January 12 2012 (UTC)

Also, I guess you're now in charge of that Merc Melee Support build. I'm busy doing stuff with ele's and really don't see much point in more than one mesmer (because let's face it - that's the only profession worth running for more than there are heroes of that prof). I might experiment with a Mercenary Ele build with like 4 SF's with an ele player and then some defense crap for crazy glass cannon nukage, but that's about it. --Jai's Computer - 06:14, January 12 2012 (UTC)

I don't touch merc builds, but throwing it away is a waste. The EA build is really useful for stand-alone nuking, especially heroes because they can split attributes and manage energy easily.--Relyk 06:36, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

True, but I've only been doing ele stuff en mass (mostly because the ele heroes are easy to get and I haven't finished NF yet on my ele), so SF has been rather godly. You're probably right that EA is better when you've only got 1-2. --Jai's Computer - 06:41, January 12 2012 (UTC)

I'm lazy with balling. think 2 eles over 2 roj would be better off for me? give me a team build now relyk. :D lol. Akio_Katsuragi 02:40, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Run single healer like a man.--Relyk 03:54, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

could i.. run fb on mes, soh on st rit, then still have the heals on sos? spread sucks ass. sigh. soh goes great with sos. :PAkio_Katsuragi 05:45, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Run SoH on one of the Fire eles and take the heals on the resto if you really want? I mean dual attune provides a shit-ton of energy anyway. PewPew QQ 06:49, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

You could but then I would slap you--Relyk 09:35, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Your Core

You actually did dungeons with half bars? Shadow _{Honor The Elementalists!} 07:45, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

For a point in my little guide index about core builds--Relyk 08:02, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

But you actually did it? Shadow _{Honor The Elementalists!} 15:21, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Nah those aren't screenshots of my Warrior clearing CoF uploaded by me, I totally photoshopped them from a true pro at PvE: Sir Vincels Evanstar--Relyk 17:59, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

How did you know my nickname? rąʂKƴɖooƿɭɘş 18:17, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

I wanted to say: We got a badass over here. My argument would've been invalid though :(. Damn, I looked up to you bra Shadow _{Honor The Elementalists!} 18:46, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Jokes. Jokes everywhere D: rąʂKƴɖooƿɭɘş 01:12, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Why did you look up to my bra? Vincent Evan [Air Henchman] 01:36, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Because I'm one of the few people on here that knows how to get shit done fast. Life and Lau and Relyk are the only persons here that I'm sure could school me any day in pve. rąʂKƴɖooƿɭɘş 01:40, 17 January 2012 (UTC)